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if you looked at ronald reagan, ronald reagan raised taxes twice. he had a big tax cut in 1981. in 1982, closed loopholes and raised more taxes than any president up to that point. and he had another tax cut increase before his term was over. see that's the story that conservatives don't tell us. conservaves tell us we believe in lower taxes look at reagan. they don't say in 82 and another time during his term heraised taxes. >> charlie but he also ended up with a big deficit too did he not. >> that's because of defense. >> charlie: well that's spending. marty. >> i think the key thing in all of this is to get people to understand that cutting snding includes the spending that isin the tax code. if we cld focus on that, if we could agree that government subsidies for healthcare or government subsidies for home improvements or other things, that those are really a form of spending, then i think we could bring on board the people who say i'm, i want to see spending cuts, not jt tax increases. >> charlie: david. >> and there's a second piece to that too. i agree, we should get peop
if you looked at ronald reagan, ronald reagan raised taxes twice. he had a big tax cut in 1981. in 1982, closed loopholes and raised more taxes than any president up to that point. and he had another tax cut increase before his term was over. see that's the story that conservatives don't tell us. conservaves tell us we believe in lower taxes look at reagan. they don't say in 82 and another time during his term heraised taxes. >> charlie but he also ended up with a big deficit too did he...
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>> ever president in modern times, going i think in model reagan -- ronald reagan -- george w. bush, we're going to make a switch grass into oil. this was not much better and i stopped paying attention. >> the gas tax -- you have to have a big revenue jump on energy or nothing good happens. >> charles has been talking about this or as long as i have known him. >> 1983, my first piece on that i have given up. >> i guess i've been around longer. richard nixon was the first on this. >> you are right. >> it might have been the same teleprompter. [laughter] energy independence, nationalism has become some of the underlying premise -- >> i would make two points. it looks as if the president's policy on oil is a drill in brazil. second, he said that we would cut oil imports by one/league starting from the day of my swearing in. why did he take that day? today we import 9.7 million barrels because of recession. he has not lifted a finger. the man is hope and change. [laughter] >> no comment. >> they want to shut the government down and turn you into their scapegoat and to say is that t
>> ever president in modern times, going i think in model reagan -- ronald reagan -- george w. bush, we're going to make a switch grass into oil. this was not much better and i stopped paying attention. >> the gas tax -- you have to have a big revenue jump on energy or nothing good happens. >> charles has been talking about this or as long as i have known him. >> 1983, my first piece on that i have given up. >> i guess i've been around longer. richard nixon was the...
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reagan, and that is dumb. having said that, politifact analyzed for statements and said that 27, none were entirely true, of the controversy once, and 10 were pants-on-a fire false. >> how powerfully are republicans in iowa -- how carefully are republicans in iowa going to look at this? >> she is the best thing to happen to the democrats. >> you think she can win the nomination? >> it is no likely. she rains a longshot. she has a good chance of winning iowa, but i dhave not sure where she goes in terms of winning after that. she could easily end up number two. she is very appealing. the more you learn about our -- 23 foster kids, five kids of our own. looking after each other -- she talks about life, family, love the game after each other. it is not only rhetoric. she would have a hard time in the general election. >> defense secretary robert gates retired this week. they gave him a good a sendoff at the pentagon. he said when he looks back at his service, he will think of the younger warriors, the ones who ne
reagan, and that is dumb. having said that, politifact analyzed for statements and said that 27, none were entirely true, of the controversy once, and 10 were pants-on-a fire false. >> how powerfully are republicans in iowa -- how carefully are republicans in iowa going to look at this? >> she is the best thing to happen to the democrats. >> you think she can win the nomination? >> it is no likely. she rains a longshot. she has a good chance of winning iowa, but i dhave...
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first time since ronald reagan that the republicans won the women's vote as w're mving forward we're seeing where others really are a battle over women heading in to 2012. >> we reach out to every woman, we'll tell a story and again we have again a candidate that is ready to talk about the big thing not to try to divide our country in to again, men against women. it's, think that we need federal government in our lives from birth to grave and all along the grave. >> with pollreporting double-digit gender gap in fvor of president obama, romney and his supporters have lots of work to do. they believe they'll narrow that divide, and attract more women, minorities and young people to the ticket. >> here is what we're concerned about in utah. it's not about religion, or race, it's not about social status. it's about discipline, limited government, personal responsibility and so this is exactly the party for that. >> if you go poll moms that over 50% they're going to tell you they're independent. and they were unfiltered, unbiased information. >> one of things i'm going to focus on is maki
first time since ronald reagan that the republicans won the women's vote as w're mving forward we're seeing where others really are a battle over women heading in to 2012. >> we reach out to every woman, we'll tell a story and again we have again a candidate that is ready to talk about the big thing not to try to divide our country in to again, men against women. it's, think that we need federal government in our lives from birth to grave and all along the grave. >> with...
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it is a miracle that ronald reagan won 49 states without fox news, rush limbaugh, sean hannity, drudge report, with the network's dominant and "the washington post" and "the new york times" ascended. mitt romney is being undone by some conspiracy out of a 7- eleven in falls church? [laughter] >> there was no other reagan. was unique and a political actor unlike any we have seen. putting mitt against him is unfair. he is not a great campaigner. i think he would be a great president, but he is not a great campaigner. evan is right. if the polls are 0.9% in one direction, there probably true. -- 90% in one direction, they are probably true. but you have to apply a formula by who is likely to show up. if you apply the model of the 2008lectorate, you get one result, highly pro-obama. but if you say the electorate will look more like 2004, then the race is even. i think that is the only argument that you could make. t a conirac it is which way you model the electorate, how it breaks down on election day. >> we have a debate coming up, nina. what is your advice to mitt romney? how to seat gai
it is a miracle that ronald reagan won 49 states without fox news, rush limbaugh, sean hannity, drudge report, with the network's dominant and "the washington post" and "the new york times" ascended. mitt romney is being undone by some conspiracy out of a 7- eleven in falls church? [laughter] >> there was no other reagan. was unique and a political actor unlike any we have seen. putting mitt against him is unfair. he is not a great campaigner. i think he would be a...
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reagan, the smiley face of conservatism. paul ryan, unfortunately for his national debut, someone who is well regarded by many, fell into the category of 5 minutes to midnight, things are dark and are going to be bleaker and this is the time for cold showers and root canal. >> five minutes to dawn, five minutes to midnight? >> there are two kinds of democrats,hose who's been, those who tell the truth. what we got from the president was a remarkable speech of spin. he did not even use the word "debt" until he was 35 minutes into the speech, and what he proposed was essentially nothing, the most trivial cuts come in a speech were the first half was all about new stimulus. it is as if nothing had happened, as if he was going to continue it exactly as he -- if the facehe electorate is not serious when it says it wants shrinking of government -- >> the electorate is not serious, and you see that all the time. they want it generically but not specifically. there are not willing to pay -- they are not willing to pay -- >> in those
reagan, the smiley face of conservatism. paul ryan, unfortunately for his national debut, someone who is well regarded by many, fell into the category of 5 minutes to midnight, things are dark and are going to be bleaker and this is the time for cold showers and root canal. >> five minutes to dawn, five minutes to midnight? >> there are two kinds of democrats,hose who's been, those who tell the truth. what we got from the president was a remarkable speech of spin. he did not even...
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in 1976, ronald reagan won at 12 and a = emerged as the leader of the conservative party. he has a chance to emerge as the leader of the conservative leader within the republican party. >> let it also be set about rick santorum that this is the guy who sa that barack obama was is n running -- was a snap for wanting children to go to college, and that listening to kennedy's speech about having no religion in politics made him want to throw up. in the first debate, and a year when it debates were more important than ever, rick santorum was a non-combatant. >> in fairness to him, he was marginalized because he was at zero in the polls. >> well, he had a chance and he blew it. he will be a good candate in 2016 if he gets chae. >> colby? >> hebrews' another thing, too, that there's a real fissure in the report -- he proves another thing, too, that there is a real fissure in the republican party. romney still has a problem with his base, although he is the nominee, or going to be the nominee. >> he did not get the catholic vote, even though he has every -- he is a very serious c
in 1976, ronald reagan won at 12 and a = emerged as the leader of the conservative party. he has a chance to emerge as the leader of the conservative leader within the republican party. >> let it also be set about rick santorum that this is the guy who sa that barack obama was is n running -- was a snap for wanting children to go to college, and that listening to kennedy's speech about having no religion in politics made him want to throw up. in the first debate, and a year when it...
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and you know, romney's problem is that he's not ronald reagan. reagan was really comfortable, you know, living in people's kitchens. >> rose: with all this money and all the television ads that can be done, can they change that? let's assume a good political campaign, a good speech at the convention, let's assume a great keynote as obama had in 2004, could that start something that has the america public redefine mitt romney. >> yes, but it's going to require perfection. and also on the-- ad front it will require ads that break out. most of these ads you have seen from the outside groups and republican side and mitt romney's campaign have largely focused on the economy is terrible or solindra or some version of-- people already know the economy is bad. they don't need a political ad that reminded them of that. those all blend together. we only add on the republican side is one from the rnc nip expenditure which focused on disappointment and it's okay to make a change. >> rose: how about are you better off today than you were four years ago. >> i
and you know, romney's problem is that he's not ronald reagan. reagan was really comfortable, you know, living in people's kitchens. >> rose: with all this money and all the television ads that can be done, can they change that? let's assume a good political campaign, a good speech at the convention, let's assume a great keynote as obama had in 2004, could that start something that has the america public redefine mitt romney. >> yes, but it's going to require perfection. and also on...
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mber one, tax rates were extremely high when ronald reagan came in office. they were retarding meck growth. they were slowing down the economy and we had stagflation. because of paul volcker we ended up getting sound money, inflation out of the system. because of my political mentor jack kemp and ronald reagan we brought tax rates down which unleashed, until then unprecedented economic growth. spending was too high at that time. so while we-- while we got the re6 news and economics right we had a cold war to fight. we had a big spending problem. what bill clinton got right in my opinion was in 19978 budget agreement which was a budget agreement with the republicans this congress and the president with erskine bowles negotiating this, lower spending, lower capital gains taxes, that budget agreement was the press i business or the precursor to the surplus we ended up getting. >> rose: didn't they install, didn't bill clinton-- make decisions in '93. >> so rubin omics is what we would refer to that as. >> rose: which is being a deficit hawk. >> yes, that's righ
mber one, tax rates were extremely high when ronald reagan came in office. they were retarding meck growth. they were slowing down the economy and we had stagflation. because of paul volcker we ended up getting sound money, inflation out of the system. because of my political mentor jack kemp and ronald reagan we brought tax rates down which unleashed, until then unprecedented economic growth. spending was too high at that time. so while we-- while we got the re6 news and economics right we had...
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reagan -- >> ronald reagan is an introvert? >> no, bill clinton -- you either have extroverts on steroids or they are bullying alone and walking on the beach in the wing tips. people are always telling me because i spent a lot of time with reagan and covered him from the very beginning and to the very end, there was a place that you could only get so close to him and even nancy reagan has said that and certainly his core group of irssors, going all the way back to california said that. the shield would come down. >> rose: but at the same time it is said in washington he would always have time for tip o'neill at the end of the day, he understood that that was an important thing for him to do. >> he did, because i thought that he got great experience in california, i mean, i was out there at that time, and california is the sixth largest country in the world, in effect. >> rose: and it still is. >> and the california legislature was run by one of the best politicians i had ever seen anywhere at any time. and onru said to me about
reagan -- >> ronald reagan is an introvert? >> no, bill clinton -- you either have extroverts on steroids or they are bullying alone and walking on the beach in the wing tips. people are always telling me because i spent a lot of time with reagan and covered him from the very beginning and to the very end, there was a place that you could only get so close to him and even nancy reagan has said that and certainly his core group of irssors, going all the way back to california said...
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. >> ronald reagan's own budget director said there's nothing serious or courageous about this plan. there's nothing soorss about a plan that claims to reduce the deficit by spending $1 trillion on tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires. and i don't think there's anything courageous about asking for sacrifice from those who can least afford it and don't have any clout on capitol hill. that's not a vision of the america i know. >> rose: the g.o.p. leadership fought back calling the president's speech political and partisan. >> i thought the president's invitation to mr. camp, and myself was an olive branch. instead, what we got was a speech that was excessively partisan, dramatically inaccurate, and hopelessly inadequate to addressing our country's pressing fiscal challenges. >> rose: president obama's speech comes as congress nears a critical vote on whether to raise the debt ceiling to allowhe government to borrow more money to cover its obligations. joining me here in washington is white house budget director jack lew. i am pleased to have him on this program for the first time
. >> ronald reagan's own budget director said there's nothing serious or courageous about this plan. there's nothing soorss about a plan that claims to reduce the deficit by spending $1 trillion on tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires. and i don't think there's anything courageous about asking for sacrifice from those who can least afford it and don't have any clout on capitol hill. that's not a vision of the america i know. >> rose: the g.o.p. leadership fought back calling...
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reagan, who is almost hymnal music in the background, i said, well, ronald reagan raised taxes 11 times in his eight years, grover, what about that? and he said, i didn't like it at all. i said, well why do you think he did it? well, i don't know. very disappointed. >> he did it to make the country run. and this guy grover who was unknown three years ago, if not the fourth most powerful man in america, 95 percent of both housit is. >> se: sied aenta >sign a pledge no taxes under any circumstances unless there is a commensurate cut or reduction in taxes. >> people who do say, i would be prepared perhaps to vote for a tax increase if i was -- if it was confirmed to me that i believe the congress would make the cuts in spending that i believe are necessary. >> yes. and we bought into that, that's why we said the spending cuts had to happen before you have the tax increases, or the tax reforms. >> rose: bought in the idea you have to ld. >> you can't get into one of tse sittions like reagan did where you have the i tax increases and never had the cuts. >> rose: he talked about that, i said
reagan, who is almost hymnal music in the background, i said, well, ronald reagan raised taxes 11 times in his eight years, grover, what about that? and he said, i didn't like it at all. i said, well why do you think he did it? well, i don't know. very disappointed. >> he did it to make the country run. and this guy grover who was unknown three years ago, if not the fourth most powerful man in america, 95 percent of both housit is. >> se: sied aenta >sign a pledge no taxes under...
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no republican presidential candidate has won the state since ronald reagan. diane eastabrook has more on this. she's standing by in milwaukee. diane. >> reporter: susie, the latest polls show president obama winning by a couple of percentage points. but it could be a squeaker. in this working class neighborhood on milwaukee's northwest side, voters poured into a school administration building to cast ballots throughout the day. >> we had lines at 7:00. before the polls even opened, there were probably 20 to 30 people in line. >> reporter: while wisconsin native paul ryan tops the republican ticket with mitt romney, the economy was more important to the voters we spoke to than badger state pride. >> right now, i'm unemployed, so whoever is going to make it better, i'm all for that. >> reporter: in september, the unemployment rate in wisconsin was 7.3%; when president obama was elected in 2008, the state's unemployment rate was 5.9%. while the state has added only 4,100 jobs from january through september of this year, the improving national employment numbers
no republican presidential candidate has won the state since ronald reagan. diane eastabrook has more on this. she's standing by in milwaukee. diane. >> reporter: susie, the latest polls show president obama winning by a couple of percentage points. but it could be a squeaker. in this working class neighborhood on milwaukee's northwest side, voters poured into a school administration building to cast ballots throughout the day. >> we had lines at 7:00. before the polls even opened,...
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but kind of organic connection that you felt of, say, ronald reagan, or even a george h.w. bush or george bush with the party and its base is not there. it's artificial. there's an element of wariness and mistrust on both sides. and you could hear it in the way the different speakers spoke about romney's biography. it was all from kind of cheat sheet, the same thing. there was very little i thought truly authentic "this is the guy." so there is a tension there. and is romney the last of something? you know, a certain generation of really northern liberal republicans, he's now posing as something more conservative. and is ryan the future or-- and i think this depends on the election-- do the republicans get smashed in the election? looking at the polling now, unlikely, but who knows? do they go through the kind of soul searching that democrats went through in the late '80s and '90s that give birth to bill clinton and the centrist democrat movement? it will be interesting to watch. >> rose: you think there's a possibility that if the republicans are defeated badly and they sa
but kind of organic connection that you felt of, say, ronald reagan, or even a george h.w. bush or george bush with the party and its base is not there. it's artificial. there's an element of wariness and mistrust on both sides. and you could hear it in the way the different speakers spoke about romney's biography. it was all from kind of cheat sheet, the same thing. there was very little i thought truly authentic "this is the guy." so there is a tension there. and is romney the last...
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. >> ronald reagan. ronald reagan. >> rose: in the 84 campaign. >> right, right. >> one point on the president correcting, i kind of agree we'll probably lead that internally but boy oh boy, the pressure on joe biden and paul ryan because that debate, the stakes are higher across the board. both biden and ryan are probably doubling their debate prep time now. >> can i disagree. >> rose: yes. >> can i disagree with my good friend mike murphy on that. you know mike you were just a kid i know but in 1988, there was a really much claimed vice presidential debate, lloyd benson and dan quayle. lloyd benson cleaned up the room, one of the great lines in the history of debates and it didn't move the needle one iota. i don't think vice presidential debates will be fun to watch or great for us in t press, i don't think it matters. >> rose: go ahead. >> i was going to say there are a couple sort of issues where there could have been more illumination in terms of flushing thing out on the healthcare debate where mit
. >> ronald reagan. ronald reagan. >> rose: in the 84 campaign. >> right, right. >> one point on the president correcting, i kind of agree we'll probably lead that internally but boy oh boy, the pressure on joe biden and paul ryan because that debate, the stakes are higher across the board. both biden and ryan are probably doubling their debate prep time now. >> can i disagree. >> rose: yes. >> can i disagree with my good friend mike murphy on that. you...
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this evening from a president ronald reagan. >> the republican national convention from tampa. next. funding for charlie rose was provided by the following. for for >> rose: additional funding provided by these funders. >> and by captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> tonight the special edition of charlie rose. >> rose: tonight we continue our coverage of the 2012 republican national convention from tampa, florida. the abbreviated convention kicked off today, hurricane isaac has made its present known, there is fear of damage to new orleans and otherplac remindin some of the tragedy of hurricane katrina, many see this week's proceedings as an opportunity for mitt romney to define himself, the republican party, and why he should be elected to, two of the speakers included house speaker john boehner, rick santorum form and romney and governor chris christie, this week will be a test for governor romney, the vice presidential nominee and the keynote speaker, joining me now in tampa, john dickerson, the political dir
this evening from a president ronald reagan. >> the republican national convention from tampa. next. funding for charlie rose was provided by the following. for for >> rose: additional funding provided by these funders. >> and by captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> tonight the special edition of charlie rose. >> rose: tonight we continue our coverage of the 2012 republican national convention from...
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today ronald reagan goes up and cuts a deal with tip o'neill, if sean than hahnty didn't like it, by the time they get back to the white house or rachel maddow doesn't like it, the deal is undone. that's the difference today. >> woodruff: david axelrod acknowledges the polarized capital has forced mr. obama to change the way he governs. >> we learned from some of the obstacles that we faced during the debt ceiling debacle that we edeto take tese issues to the outside and really enlist the american people and make sure that they thoroughly were engaged in the discussion. that's why we were able to pass the payroll tax cut the republicans first resisted because the american people got involved. >> woodruff: davis, however, is not optimistic that any real change in the political climate is possible even if the president enlists more public support. >> the republican base is rabid against obama. he may win reelection but the republican base is just rabid. it's unlikely to change and not tolerate those kind of compromises. the republican leaders have to factor that in when they sit down a
today ronald reagan goes up and cuts a deal with tip o'neill, if sean than hahnty didn't like it, by the time they get back to the white house or rachel maddow doesn't like it, the deal is undone. that's the difference today. >> woodruff: david axelrod acknowledges the polarized capital has forced mr. obama to change the way he governs. >> we learned from some of the obstacles that we faced during the debt ceiling debacle that we edeto take tese issues to the outside and really...
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this is not even a ronald reagan platform. this is very much reminiscent of what the gold water forces took over the republican party to be bipartisan when the antiwar movement and george mcgovern took over the democratic party in 1972 and redefined that party for a long time to come. so it's not unprecedented. and i would argue that -- it's interesting. teddy white famously said that conventions give overrations in lieu of nomination. that film of bushes was warmly received but it's impossible to over look the fact that this is not george h. w. bush's or george w. bush's republican party. >> ifill: we heard jeb bush speak warm about his brother so this was something at least. interviewer: what richard said he's absolutely right the barry goldwater part of tea party is here. what is not here is the antiwall street part of the party. paul ryan voted for tarp. that part of tea party movement has been defamed. >> woodruff: we're hearing from people in the mormon church, the church of jesus christ of latter day saints. that's mitt
this is not even a ronald reagan platform. this is very much reminiscent of what the gold water forces took over the republican party to be bipartisan when the antiwar movement and george mcgovern took over the democratic party in 1972 and redefined that party for a long time to come. so it's not unprecedented. and i would argue that -- it's interesting. teddy white famously said that conventions give overrations in lieu of nomination. that film of bushes was warmly received but it's impossible...
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judy, whatever you say about ronald reagan and i said a lot. but he ran a double defense budget, cut taxes by a third so when he won in 1980 there was a mandate to do it. and i don't see any mandate coming out of this election unless i'm missing. >> one of the things that occurred to me this week is (obama running an ad i think in ohio that ends with mitt romney, he's not one of us. and that's an old code language. and you know, just as a sense of principles you just don't run that ad with that sort of slogan. so it is part of -- >> we saw the debate on monday night. we saw its old mitt, iraq war, i was for t i support it then, i support it now. and monday night we don't want another iraq. i'm not dick cheney or george w. bush. peace, peace, peace, the new mitt, would have the new nixon in 68y. i mean the new improved mitt, he did the same thing on iran sanctions. he was talking about an aerial strike, he was talking about an invasion, an attack upon iran as recently as months ago. and now he is saying oh i'm all for sauntions. we have to do it
judy, whatever you say about ronald reagan and i said a lot. but he ran a double defense budget, cut taxes by a third so when he won in 1980 there was a mandate to do it. and i don't see any mandate coming out of this election unless i'm missing. >> one of the things that occurred to me this week is (obama running an ad i think in ohio that ends with mitt romney, he's not one of us. and that's an old code language. and you know, just as a sense of principles you just don't run that ad...
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and the problem is they were 62% of the electorate when ronald reagan got electedded. now they're 38% of the electorate. david is right. i think you've seen overtones of racial appeal in some of the commercials in the last couple of weeks. i think they are disturbing >> woodruff: a the part of the romney campaign >> yes, on the part of the romney campaign >> ifill: gentlemen, as we start our long weeks together here in tampa and next week in charlotte we want to hold you to some things. what are the big speeches you're listening for? what are the big issues that you think are going to play out in the next week or two >> i'm going with ann romney. i think she'll be the single most important speech of this convention. she's, a, a better speaker than her husband. >> ifill: aren't they always better speakers >> it is an interesting thing. psychologists should study there. they're better speaker, smarter and usually better politicians, the politicians. if anybody can humanize it's her >> mark? i am looking at the romney speech because this is a moment. i mean americans, are
and the problem is they were 62% of the electorate when ronald reagan got electedded. now they're 38% of the electorate. david is right. i think you've seen overtones of racial appeal in some of the commercials in the last couple of weeks. i think they are disturbing >> woodruff: a the part of the romney campaign >> yes, on the part of the romney campaign >> ifill: gentlemen, as we start our long weeks together here in tampa and next week in charlotte we want to hold you to...
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reagan did. and in that sense, it's been one of barack obama's biggest weaknesses. he's been an opaque figure. he has not had the theory of the case as you said connects where he comes from, what he believes in with the policies. >> rose: person to policy. >> yeah. so they're evenly matched i think on that level. what the president's campaign has been better at so far is doing the negative version of romney which is to connect his person ory and s vst wealt to his policies in a negative. >> i don't think making a lot of money, the president made a lot of money, by the way. >> he has. >> but not tied-- not -- the idea of making investments and creates companies does not resonate. i mean the he's the president and attacks made by the obama team have been able to somehow make that negative rather than a positive. >> well, look, why is the president -- >> through staples and sports authorities and all those businesses that created jobs. it does not overcome what the negative is. >> so far, why is the
reagan did. and in that sense, it's been one of barack obama's biggest weaknesses. he's been an opaque figure. he has not had the theory of the case as you said connects where he comes from, what he believes in with the policies. >> rose: person to policy. >> yeah. so they're evenly matched i think on that level. what the president's campaign has been better at so far is doing the negative version of romney which is to connect his person ory and s vst wealt to his policies in a...
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. >> well, it was the great ronald reagan line he didn't worry about it because it was big enough to take care of itself. >> rose: (laughs) >> and i think that sort of was the sense. i think, again, it's not people go home and say "my gosh, i worry about the size of the deficit." it's is symbolism of a government out of control. now it really is a symbolism of a society out of control. it's not just government debt or public debt, look at consumer debt. one of the things is... and i'm not an economic expert, as you know, charles, but o of the things that's holding back this recovery is the fact that consumers, unlike 1991 or unlike 1982, consumeers are so idebt that it's hard for consumers to spend their way out of this economy. >> rose: so what does all this mean for the presidential election in 2012? >> this is a terrible copout but i don't think we can tell right now. because it depends on how obama handles it. if he's as clever as bill clinton was in 1994 that will certainly give him a tremendous leg up and depends on what happens to the republican party. there are people like ch
. >> well, it was the great ronald reagan line he didn't worry about it because it was big enough to take care of itself. >> rose: (laughs) >> and i think that sort of was the sense. i think, again, it's not people go home and say "my gosh, i worry about the size of the deficit." it's is symbolism of a government out of control. now it really is a symbolism of a society out of control. it's not just government debt or public debt, look at consumer debt. one of the...
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add up to avoid a huge tax break at the top because whenever we've cut tax rates before, like under ronald reagan, the way that they avoided it being a huge tax cut at the top was to raise the tax rate on capital gains so tha it s the same as the regular income tax rate. ryan has said he wouldn't do that. >> ifill: we have to be fair here. >> just to put it simply, we are now in fourth year of trillion dollar deficits. we're on a path in which the public debt will be twice the size of the entire economy. we need to do something about that. you may disagree with portions of chairman ryan's proposal, but you can have no doubt that something has to be done to correct the path we're. >> ifill: patrick knudson, bob greenstein, steven dennis, thank you all verymuch. >> woodruff: we're joined by newshour political editor christina bellantoni. welcome to you both. what does this say about governor romney, dan? >> two things. one is something we often underestimate. the personal nature of a pick like this, all of these presidential candidates want comfort with the person they find as their running
add up to avoid a huge tax break at the top because whenever we've cut tax rates before, like under ronald reagan, the way that they avoided it being a huge tax cut at the top was to raise the tax rate on capital gains so tha it s the same as the regular income tax rate. ryan has said he wouldn't do that. >> ifill: we have to be fair here. >> just to put it simply, we are now in fourth year of trillion dollar deficits. we're on a path in which the public debt will be twice the size...
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and if you are sort of only peripherally engaged or not the superengaged person, ronald reagan was not engaged in every detail, he could have the stam no-- stamina to do t but obama is engaged in everything. and i do think there is a sense of fat agency that one senses around the white house and one senses around him. nd so to get the passion that he had in 2008, i think is just hard given everything he's been through. >> you think that explains, mark, partly what happened? >> it may well, judy. 48 hours later, first of all, just a personal note, i have speculated on debate night that the president's passive performance and it was quite passive, listless, may have been attributed in part to john kerry, his sparring partner in the prep sessions who is a leading contender to be secretary of state maybe not going tough toe-to-toe to him. my subsequent reporting has, in fact, contradicted that. john kerry, i was told by two eye witnesses was actually tougher inside than mitt romney was with barack obama. >> woodruff: so that's not it. >> no, i don't think that-- i do think what we conclude
and if you are sort of only peripherally engaged or not the superengaged person, ronald reagan was not engaged in every detail, he could have the stam no-- stamina to do t but obama is engaged in everything. and i do think there is a sense of fat agency that one senses around the white house and one senses around him. nd so to get the passion that he had in 2008, i think is just hard given everything he's been through. >> you think that explains, mark, partly what happened? >> it...
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when ronald reagan got in trouble in 1980 and in did in that campaign there were people there who had been with him in 1964 and barry goldwater fight, been with him in 1968 when he challenged richard nixon as the conservative alternative, 1976 when he took on president-- there were to years of shared foxholes, there aren't with mitt romney so when mitt romney gets in trouble, there isn't that emotional cadre of people saying i've been there in the tough ones. and he was always good. >> yeah. i agree with that. though i would say the trouble is different. let me put it this way. several decades ago hi a chance to have dinner with tom clancy the thriller writer. he sat down and had just toured a battleship and seen a new weapon system and was bubbling overbout excitement about t new weapon system he thought was very interesting. and he was just talking about it with great passion. and i remember thinking, you can't fake it if you don't feel that you can't write tom clancy nofls. and with mitt romney, he's faking it. i think he's a nonideaological guy running in an ideaological age who i
when ronald reagan got in trouble in 1980 and in did in that campaign there were people there who had been with him in 1964 and barry goldwater fight, been with him in 1968 when he challenged richard nixon as the conservative alternative, 1976 when he took on president-- there were to years of shared foxholes, there aren't with mitt romney so when mitt romney gets in trouble, there isn't that emotional cadre of people saying i've been there in the tough ones. and he was always good. >>...
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reagan as a unifiers for the republican party. i'll tell you somebody else who's a stronger uniter and that is barack obama. republicans of all stripes are very eager to deny president obama a second term andn the end i think that tegs strongt force thatill unite the party behind mitt romney. >> woodruff: we going to leave it there. susan page, jim o'toole, we thank you both. >> thank you, judy. >> thank you. >> brown: still to come on the newshour, increased taxes on the very rich; budget strains at community colleges; and the rise and spread of the aids epidemic. but first, the other news of the day. here's hari sreenivasan. >> sreenivasan: wall street hit the brakes again today. stocks extended a week-long slump, amid simmering concerns about u.s. corporate earnings and debt problems in europe. the dow jones industrial average lost 213 points to close below 12,716. the nasdaq fell nearly 56 points to close at 2991. the government of syria claimed today that its army is pulling back from towns and villages as part of a u.n.-brok
reagan as a unifiers for the republican party. i'll tell you somebody else who's a stronger uniter and that is barack obama. republicans of all stripes are very eager to deny president obama a second term andn the end i think that tegs strongt force thatill unite the party behind mitt romney. >> woodruff: we going to leave it there. susan page, jim o'toole, we thank you both. >> thank you, judy. >> thank you. >> brown: still to come on the newshour, increased taxes on...
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ronald reagan... >> oh, now, you're jack kennedy. >> woodruff: abortion also figured as a key issue in the debate. both men are catholics, and they were asked to describe their position, based on their faith. >> i don't see how a person can separate their public life from their private life or from their faith. and i respect people who don't agree with me on this. but the policy of a romney administration will be to oppose abortion, with the exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mother. >> life begins at conception. that's the church's judgment. i accept it in my personal life. i just refuse to impose that on others, unlike my friend here, the congressman. i do not believe that we have a right to tell other people that wom, thy. theyan't control their body. it's a decision between them and their doctor, in my view. and the supreme court-- i'm not going to interfere with that. >> woodruff: biden warned a conservative supreme court majority would overturn a woman's right to choose. ryan, who's on record favoring such a move, said abortion policy is best made by elected lawmakers.
ronald reagan... >> oh, now, you're jack kennedy. >> woodruff: abortion also figured as a key issue in the debate. both men are catholics, and they were asked to describe their position, based on their faith. >> i don't see how a person can separate their public life from their private life or from their faith. and i respect people who don't agree with me on this. but the policy of a romney administration will be to oppose abortion, with the exceptions for rape, incest, and...
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therefore i think the voters are going to ask the question that ronald reagan put so succinctly and is so brilliantly, are you better off than you were four years ago? or maybe even better, judy, is the country better off than it was four years ago? they will ask that question as they always do in these referendum elections. they will ce up with the answer. >> woodruff: you know, on that point, bob, you call for the candidates to campaign with an eye to governing. to think ahead to what it's going to be like if they're elected, if they're serving. are they doing that in this election, in this campaign? >> no, i don't think they're doing that. if you believe, as i do -- and others may not -- that these elections are referendums, then it means that the incumbent needs to run on his record. the effort to dismantle and destroy the image and the standing of his opponent, that doesn't really make a lot of sense. it's harmful actually in terms of how he's going to bring the country together once he's re-elected, if he is re-elected. in the case of the challenger, he needs to... if you take my
therefore i think the voters are going to ask the question that ronald reagan put so succinctly and is so brilliantly, are you better off than you were four years ago? or maybe even better, judy, is the country better off than it was four years ago? they will ask that question as they always do in these referendum elections. they will ce up with the answer. >> woodruff: you know, on that point, bob, you call for the candidates to campaign with an eye to governing. to think ahead to what...
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at the same time, as ronald reagan said, we should trust then verify. there needs to be a very, ver rigorous set of controls to make sure that there are internal executive branch controls, that this information is protected adequately, and that there is outside review by the senate and house intelligence committers, and where appropriate, the foreign intelligence surveillance courts or other courts. that is build built-in to these guidelines. >> warner: a quick final response from you, mr. james bamford. do you have any information or any reporting that suggests those safeborders aren't in place? >> i have no idea because you don't know until there's a leak or the "new york times" or mebody else breaks a story at someing is being done illegally. the problem is not only just the oversight. these problems are constantly making mistakes. ted kennedy was put on the watch list for months before he could get off it. there are thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people put on the watch list by accident. the more information you have of people being put i
at the same time, as ronald reagan said, we should trust then verify. there needs to be a very, ver rigorous set of controls to make sure that there are internal executive branch controls, that this information is protected adequately, and that there is outside review by the senate and house intelligence committers, and where appropriate, the foreign intelligence surveillance courts or other courts. that is build built-in to these guidelines. >> warner: a quick final response from you,...
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reagan. he is to the going to have that core of ideaological depths that reagan had but will manage well. the fact that they mismanaged the convention has been upsetting to a lot of republicans. >> rose: from clint eastwood on down around. >> that was one of them but just mismanaging the messaging. >> rose: and so what should they have done they did not do. >> well,. >> rose: like the specifics of what they would do to fix the problem. >> i think if you embrace paul ryan you are embracing an agenda whether you like it or not. and so you've got to say here's the problem, here's medicare, here's how we're going fix testimony here's what we are going to do. if you embrace paul ryan go all the way. >> rose: they didn't go all the way, they already changed the fact about the cuts in medicare. >> so they embrace paul ryne and then didn't go anywhere and buried all that, and so they were, you know, if are you going to take vienna take vienna. so they've got the worst of the ryan thing which is the v
reagan. he is to the going to have that core of ideaological depths that reagan had but will manage well. the fact that they mismanaged the convention has been upsetting to a lot of republicans. >> rose: from clint eastwood on down around. >> that was one of them but just mismanaging the messaging. >> rose: and so what should they have done they did not do. >> well,. >> rose: like the specifics of what they would do to fix the problem. >> i think if you...
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and this party praises ronald reaganals the being the great optimist. so maybe this is not what they came to hear. >> thought christie's message was optimistic. he said teachers are not in it for the glory and money. he said seniors are not selfish. i thought it was a tribute to what he felt was the true middle of the voters. but that-- you're right, but isn't it time for some candor? i mean, americans do know that we face choices. we're not going to face the hot fudge sundae diet lineup of you can eat six hot fudge sundaes and have a 28-inch waist by tuesday. we're going to have to make sacrifice across the word and he's the only figure who said everybody has to sacrifice. >> woodruff: that's my question. election year after election year, and particularly this year it seems to me, voters are saying we're tired of politicians telling us everything is going to be fine. we know there are going to be tough choices required, so what's wrong with doing that. >> we'll see if the electorate is ready for that. in some states they have voted in gubernatorial ra
and this party praises ronald reaganals the being the great optimist. so maybe this is not what they came to hear. >> thought christie's message was optimistic. he said teachers are not in it for the glory and money. he said seniors are not selfish. i thought it was a tribute to what he felt was the true middle of the voters. but that-- you're right, but isn't it time for some candor? i mean, americans do know that we face choices. we're not going to face the hot fudge sundae diet lineup...
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this boy would become the man, ronald reagan. [cheers and applause] the man we know as ronald reagan whose sunny optimism shined so brightly that it cured the malaise of the late 70s. a confidence that beamed so broadly that it pulled us through a serious recession and a faith that tugged so happily at the hearts of all that a generation of democrats became republicans. [cheers and applause] the american dream is that any among us could become the next thomas edison and the next henry ford and the next ronald reagan. but to lead us forward away from this looming debt-crisis it will take someone who believes in america's greatness. who believes in and can articulate the american dream. someone who has created jobs. someone who understands and appreciates what makes america great. someone who will lead our party and our nation forward, i believe that someone is our nominee, governor mitt romney. [cheers and applause] asuÑ never Ñqj away from extinction. if our freedom is taken the american dream will wither and die. to lead we mu
this boy would become the man, ronald reagan. [cheers and applause] the man we know as ronald reagan whose sunny optimism shined so brightly that it cured the malaise of the late 70s. a confidence that beamed so broadly that it pulled us through a serious recession and a faith that tugged so happily at the hearts of all that a generation of democrats became republicans. [cheers and applause] the american dream is that any among us could become the next thomas edison and the next henry ford and...
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. >> but the difference is bill clinton felt like ronald reagan felt when he ran and like george bush felt when he ran and barack obama. this is my moment. this is my destiny. this is what i should do right now because what i offer matches what the country needs. some of these people in the race now i don't think have that attitude. i think that's normally what it takes to win and particularly to beat someone like obama who is despite the ceiling on his support still commands a very strong base of support. >> charlie: tom, one last question for you. you know you really do know and have qofered... covered the bush family and the people that are part of that sort of political dynasty. in your sense of, as you talked about this earlier, they're looking for a candidate and they could go with romney but there's a chance that huntsmanight be appealing to them? and there's chance that. go ahead. >> yes. i wouldn't be shocked if we discovered before too long that george h.w.bush 41 would like huntsman. they've got the ambassador to china thing. they have that in common. as i said earlier some
. >> but the difference is bill clinton felt like ronald reagan felt when he ran and like george bush felt when he ran and barack obama. this is my moment. this is my destiny. this is what i should do right now because what i offer matches what the country needs. some of these people in the race now i don't think have that attitude. i think that's normally what it takes to win and particularly to beat someone like obama who is despite the ceiling on his support still commands a very...
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reagan and tip o'neill did. they worked together out of a framework to lower tax rates and broaden the base. and they worked together to fix that. what we are saying is, here's our framework. lower tax rates 20%. we raise about 1.2 trillion through income taxes. we forego about 1.1 trillion in loopholes and deductions. and so what we're saying is deny those loopholes and deductions to higher income taxpayers so more of their income is taxed, which has a broader base of taxation. >> can i translate. >> so we can lower tax rates across the brd. here ishy why i'm saying this. what we are saying. >> i hope i will get time to respond to this. >> will you get time. >> we want to work with congress on how best to achieve this. that means it successful. >> no specifics, then again. >> what we are saying is lower tax rates 20%, start with the wealthy. work with congress. >> you guarantee this math will add up. >> absolutely. six studies have guaranteed. six studies have verified that this math adds up. >> vice president
reagan and tip o'neill did. they worked together out of a framework to lower tax rates and broaden the base. and they worked together to fix that. what we are saying is, here's our framework. lower tax rates 20%. we raise about 1.2 trillion through income taxes. we forego about 1.1 trillion in loopholes and deductions. and so what we're saying is deny those loopholes and deductions to higher income taxpayers so more of their income is taxed, which has a broader base of taxation. >> can i...
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ronald reagan in 1984. unemployment rate was still over 7%. so the question is how do you run a year like that? to some extent they followed reagan who was essential he saying things have been bad but they're getting better. plus if you elect the opponent, you come back to the policies of jimmy carter that led to that. they studied closely george w. bush in 2004. >> ifill: michael and richard we have a couple of calls we need to make. first in new meco, barack obama has been declared the winner of that election. >> woodruff: and that's a state he won in 2008. in the senate race in nebraska, deb fisher, the republican, defeating bob kerry, the senator who came all the way back to his home state from new york city and he was portrayed as a carpetbagger. >> ifill: he was not expected to win but reinclosed the gap. gap. i bet we can find out more b going to jeff brown. >> brown: i bet we can. let's start with nebraska. >> deb fish ser from the northern part the state and she won a surprise primary, where you had two well-known candidates running a
ronald reagan in 1984. unemployment rate was still over 7%. so the question is how do you run a year like that? to some extent they followed reagan who was essential he saying things have been bad but they're getting better. plus if you elect the opponent, you come back to the policies of jimmy carter that led to that. they studied closely george w. bush in 2004. >> ifill: michael and richard we have a couple of calls we need to make. first in new meco, barack obama has been declared the...